| From: | Anton Reinauer |
| Date: | 20 Sep 99 at 03:19:22 |
| Subject: | Re: Ahhh LETS GET MOVING!!! |
On 18-Sep-99, Donovan Reeve wrote:
>> Well, at least we might be getting Sun behind us, but will it be too
>> late?
> It's NEVER to late. Markets change all the time. People are fickle
> and get bored. There is nothing stopping people from buying more than
> one platform and many do. Also, just because microbrain dominates the
> pc market doesn't mean they will dominate the console market. There,
> it will be them that are the newcomer and the underdog. By the way,
> Sony is BIGGER than microsofthead. As for Amiga, people LIKE something
> new and different, and in the multi-media, vidio and games fields
> micro you-know-who has NOT shown themselves to be all that competent.
Exactly, using a Windows OS with a Pentium processor, is very
expensive (compared to a console) to produce, as it's /very/
inefficient. They won't be able to come near a console price for a
similar powered product!
> Amiga are making a mistake by not proceeding with their plans for
> the MCC, even if they had to have a third party make it for them.
Hell yeah, they could have made soooo much money from the MCC, /and/
the distributed computing stuff- what a bunch of pussies!!!
[big snip]
> If H&P continues to upgrade the present Amiga OS as they say they
> will (and they are known for keeping their word), and some third party
> companies continue their work on making and keeping the Amiga hardware
> up-to-date if not ahead, then we will have a good future yet. Then
> if Amiga actually come up with something which catches on well, the
> present OS can be dove-tailed into it and we will move on. If not,
> the present OS is still the best OS in many ways, and being improved
> as we speak so all is still not lost. Allthough QNX is very good, it
> is a totally different platform and must be considered as such.
And the MCC Amiga was proposing wasn't!
> I
> believe that an updated Amiga OS would be better. (Not knocking those
> who wish to try QNX, but it's going to be a VERY expensive way to go
> and software if it becomes available at all will be costly).
But it is the Amiga OS- didn't they get the Amiga OS (5.0) running on
it, just before they changed to Linux. All the old Amiga software runs
under emulation (and it will be faster than a 68k on a G4) in QNX,
so what's the problem?
> If Amiga still come out with a Linux-kernaled system that may well
> be very atractive but it will still be a different platform. We shall
> see what transpires.
> For now though, for me it's Amiga OS3.5 and Boxer (Iwin if
> available). I also plan to present my old, reliable A-3000 with a P5
> G4 card if P5 don't screw things up with some propriatory rom crap and
> instead make it so it just works under AmigaOS-3.5 on in standard
> Amigas with processor slots. I WON'T be buying any P5 products if they
> continue to pull mess-around crap like they were previously. We DON'T
> need another company with a microbrain attitude
What does that make Gateway at the moment then :/ At least P5 (with
all their failings) still got product out.
> Now... back to the software...
> What does any and everybody think of the idea of having a universal
> Amiga group for gathering information on and planning a major campaign
> to get needed and desired software made for the Amiga. I invision many
> working together on some worthwhile projects on an open-source basis,
> shareing techniques as we often do here but with the goal of finishing
> some cool pieces of major software. I also invision a web site where
> input from the general public is invited to find out what types of
> software and/or improvements are most desired. This info would be made
> available to all Amiga programers, but would also be especially useful
> to those of us in dedicated software groups in our planning. It would
> gather not only ideas for various general types of software, but also
> specific features to add to software. An expanding e-book (and maybe
> later a hard-copy book) of programing tips, tricks, techniques, and
> topics geared especially for the Amiga is another thing I invision. If
> I just start out to write a book, it will never get done. But I it
> starts out as an E-book which is layed out in logical sections and
> expanded by info from many sources, it will happen and what there is
> of it will be imediately useful to some people.
> In other words, I am talking about the following:
> 1 - large-scale open-source programming efforts to accomplish some
> cool
> software (coordinated, not unorganised). The sources would be open
> to
> all Amiga programing efforts, further discussion is needed to
> decide
> whether to open the source to any other groups.
> 2 - Gathering data on what is wanted and needed software-wise, both in
> general and especially on the Amiga. Input would be open to all
> persons but would be seperated as to Amigan and "other".
> 3 - Compiling information helpful to programmers for learning how to
> do things on the Amiga. This would be copywrited with only one
> provisio: that it all information would be freely distributable
> only for use in creating software for Amigas or teaching others to
> create software for Amigas.
> We Blitzers are especially in a good position to start some
> coordinated efforts in this direction. What do you all think?
Have you checked out the Phoenix thing, with the Aqua- there's lots of
kick-arse Amiga programmers involved now! It's just what you're
talking about and more! :)
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